I would say that there are two very big differences between Karen and Lip in that instance. One, Lip's not a woman. (Who cares? I know. But the sad fact is people do. Even if they don't realize it.) Two, Mandy is pretty clearly a rebound from Karen, so it kind of doesn't count.
When it comes to Lip ~deserving Karen, you're totally right. I really feel like all the people who are angry with her would be a-okay with her if she would just "give Lip what he wants." This sickens me, but also makes me conflicted, because I actually do ship them and want to see them together. (A lot.) But knowing that's probably the major reason people have become so critical of her makes me feel icky about my shippy feelings. (Geez, fandom. Why you gotta be so hard?)
When you say shame, I think you're right. She's covered in it. With few exceptions, I don't think she regrets too much. But shame? After what her dad did to her? She's drowning in it. She did own her sexuality (which is one of the awesome things about her) but she's still just a girl who wanted her father's approval love, despite everything. It wasn't just about a car. If it was, she wouldn't have lost it so completely and acted out the way she did after all that happened.
My hope for her in season three is that she stops punishing herself. That was basically her reaction when her father hurt her. Now that her mother has, I hope that she'll have learned that it's not worth it to make herself unhappy just because of what they've done.
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I would say that there are two very big differences between Karen and Lip in that instance. One, Lip's not a woman. (Who cares? I know. But the sad fact is people do. Even if they don't realize it.) Two, Mandy is pretty clearly a rebound from Karen, so it kind of doesn't count.
When it comes to Lip ~deserving Karen, you're totally right. I really feel like all the people who are angry with her would be a-okay with her if she would just "give Lip what he wants." This sickens me, but also makes me conflicted, because I actually do ship them and want to see them together. (A lot.) But knowing that's probably the major reason people have become so critical of her makes me feel icky about my shippy feelings. (Geez, fandom. Why you gotta be so hard?)
When you say shame, I think you're right. She's covered in it. With few exceptions, I don't think she regrets too much. But shame? After what her dad did to her? She's drowning in it. She did own her sexuality (which is one of the awesome things about her) but she's still just a girl who wanted her father's
approvallove, despite everything. It wasn't just about a car. If it was, she wouldn't have lost it so completely and acted out the way she did after all that happened.My hope for her in season three is that she stops punishing herself. That was basically her reaction when her father hurt her. Now that her mother has, I hope that she'll have learned that it's not worth it to make herself unhappy just because of what they've done.