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krickets ([personal profile] krickets) wrote2008-06-23 02:31 pm
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I amuse so easily!

Okay, okay. I know I am pretty much out of the Supernatural fandom these days. But I found this quote from this buddytv.com article very amusing.

"We often say that Supernatural is, at heart, a love story between Sam and Dean."

- Cathryn Humphris, Supernatural writer (Dead Man's Blood, The Usual Suspects, Born Under a Bad Sign, Bedtime Stories, & Dream a Little Dream of Me


Yeah.

ETA: SPN casting spoilers in comments.

[identity profile] gigglemonster.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
*snickers*
aww looooove

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll leave it at *snickers* for right now. No more awws from me, lol.

[identity profile] wiccanslyr.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
ICON LOVE!!

[identity profile] dazzlebug.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
*giggles*
Weeeeeeeee, this just made me feel SO much better. I bloody KNEW it. Now we can has boy-smexing please? Umm yes.

[identity profile] dazzlebug.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, those two as well plzkthnx :)

[identity profile] isis2015.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's often quoted in the fandom. I may not be into Wincest (like, at all) but I've got to admit, sometimes, the show and the writer's really seem to encourage it. ;)

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah I didn't know. The article is new but I suppose the quote isn't?

I'm just a bit surprised to hear one of the writers say that in an interview. Of course, after about a paragraph's worth of that she says, and I paraphrase, "but obviously they are still men and want to bang many women...[not each other]"

[identity profile] lostashleigh.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
heheheee

[identity profile] workswithwords.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thats lovely...but as of now I quit spn too. I just read new spoilers and I am beyond livid. I hope the CW is shut down, seriously.

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, I read that as well. Well, Dayln linked me to it which lead to me finding that BuddyTV article.

You might get your wish. I've read articles talking about how the CW is on very thin ice and may be on their last legs.

The problem with the CW is that they're trying way too hard to be ABC, CBS, NBC or even FOX. That's just not going to happen. Nothing on networks like this gets high ratings, awards, or critical acclaim (but that more than the other two). They're operating with the "big network" mindset and it just doesn't work. FOX made it work but they're a lone wolf in that department.

(IMO, the WB could have stuck it out, stupid merge.)

If they're not on a major network, the only shows that last, that are quality made, that get critical acclaim or get decent/steady ratings are on stations like F/X (the sheild, nip/tuck, rescue me), USA (monk, psych), SciFi even (bsg, etc.), and pay cable networks like showtime and hbo.

CW is floundering because they haven't the money of the major networks, and yet aren't willing to shelter their shows like Fox did at first and even the WB did at first (I can't speak for UPN). And they've certainly got none of the respectibility of the cable niche stations.

As for the spoiler you're referring to. I'll edit my post to say spoilers in comments and then come back to discuss it further, lol.
Edited 2008-06-23 21:16 (UTC)

[identity profile] elise-509.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*butts in* pssssttt, jen - what spoilers?

All the networks just need to get a grip and realize people aren't watching TV as much anymore. Until they figure out how to rework the system so everything isn't dependent on Nielsens for ad money, they are all heading for big trouble. Which sucks, cause I still like SPN and wouldn't want the CW to go away. :\

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Here ya go → LINK (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Supernatural-Katie-Cassidy/800042045).

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-24 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Concur.

[identity profile] lalla32.livejournal.com 2008-06-24 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, bah! I was kind of liking Ruby... mostly since she shared some good scenes with Dean... but I so knew she was gone for good... still I had some small hope. Bah! Can't they figure out that they aren't helping themselves with this thing? Show a girl around for a season then throw it away because you know... the show is all about the boys, everything else is just an optional... and you know... I totally think that this fandom is the one to blame for it. The way they see every single female character like a dangerous intruder between Sam and Dean. Bah! This show really gets to my nerves sometimes... and Kripke is an idiot, that I knew since the start.

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-24 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't know that I blame the fans for the fact that the show hasn't established any half-decent supporting female characters characters that wouldn't need to be brought in as total newbies in the third and fourth seasons. (Or male for that matter, with the exception of Bobby.) That's not the fans fault, that's just shitty/lazy storytelling.

It's hard for fans to swallow characters that don't seem organic to the story.


Edited 2008-06-24 14:25 (UTC)

[identity profile] lalla32.livejournal.com 2008-06-24 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, that's also true!
And if you keep getting rid of them every single season then they will never have time to grow a little... or get better. They only seem able to write the same two types of charcaters... the kick ass girl or the damsel in distress... and I hate both of them. Buh!
I'm very glad we got rid of Bela (but what kind of a name is that?) because she hurt my nerves... but Ruby... I think they could have made her work if they had tried a little harder. Joe unfortunately was bad too... I liked her just in one ep when the guys got to save her ass... in the other ones everything she did was so obvious and lame and annoying! But still that doesn't justify to me the way she was thrown out... and don't even make me start with pour Ellen. Can't they just have a little faith in their own characters?
And all the boys "girlfriends" were awful too... the only one I really liked was Layla from Faith... but that's probably because of the lovely actress...

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
So, they're not bringing Ruby back? Why am I not fucking surprised?

My respect for Kripke drops lower every day, if that's even possible. I get that this show is about these two guys and their... bond or wtf-ever, but more and more that seems to be the only common thread the show clings to from season to season... or even episode to episode. There's no real consistency in quality or side characters or anything. A car and two dudes who might be related, or might be fucking, or might be both. (Oh, and some scary/gory things.)

I don't think they've ever done a fantastic job writing women. Even Jo, who I really liked and find more interesting than Ruby, btw, wasn't that well done. I have to refrain from laughing my head off when people talk about how well-done Jessica and even Mary are. I do not see it. They are props, just like most women on that show with the BIG exception of Ellen. Mary, the sympathetic mom prop. Jessica, the sympathetic girlfriend prop.

They've done a handful of guest stars well, Ava, the chick from Asylum, the chick from Wendigo, Missouri, the demon Kasey, the cop from the Benders, and a handful of others I'm not remembering. But the problem is that they are only there for the blink of an eye. (A lot of people seemed to like Sarah, Meg, Madison, and that Lisa chick, but I don't like them at all, *shrug*)

It's not just that this show writes/kills off every woman who has even a chance of becomming recurring, it's that the show is practically incapable of writing them in the first place.

I really liked Ruby because of the mythology that came with her character. I wasn't ever in love with her acting, but we'll just say she was on par with Jared and Jensen in that way.

(ETA: And I don't actually believe they kill off/write off all women because the showrunners don't want to deviate from the story of the brothers by bringing in extra players. I think it's because it's easy. Who knows how Bobby is still around. Maybe they'll write him off due to "bugetary" reasons as well.)
Edited 2008-06-23 22:00 (UTC)

[identity profile] inthekeyofd.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not in the fandom, but I have to say, it sort of makes the fic just write itself, doesn't it. *smile*

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, really? LOL.

[identity profile] elise-509.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, at least they know it! lol.

[identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com 2008-06-23 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? When it comes out of the mouth of one of the writers, it really puts it into a whole new perspective. Haha. Even though she saved it at the last second by mentioning that they still like girls! LOL.