what lies in the shadow of the statue?
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kricketsRandom LOST Thoughts:
Kate:
I've never fully understood her character and I still don't. There were times that I really liked her, but the writing has been pretty inconsistent, and I think Evangeline's performances have been rather inconsistent as well. (Sometimes it feels like she's a completely different character, not necessarily only in her actions but in the delivery of those actions.) Despite that, I never really felt the "Kate hate" that everyone else seemed to feel. But I did lose interest in her character off and on. But by the end of this season, of our original cast, Kate (along with Sun, a bit), is really the only character that I can get behind. She's the only one who appears not to be acting out of selfish reasons, and not just because she's going with the flow/someone told her to. She's being selfless. She has so much to lose, her life with Aaron, possibly her freedom, etc. And yet she is doing the right thing. She put Aaron in the arms of his rightful family and has come back to get his mother. It's one of the few things that's made sense to me throughout this entire season.
Sawyer:
Why I grew to love Sawyer: By the beginning of this season, he had changed in a believable, consistent way. I don't feel he was emasculated or made to be someone he was not. I don't believe he became "better" per se, only that he had grown into a person who had a family, into a person who cared about someone other than himself. And it worked because it happened gradually over time and was believable. And then we flash-forward three years and Sawyer has become someone else entirely. I barely recognize his character at all. This is so frustrating to me because I have felt for a very long time that the one character on the show that the writers had done a good job with on a consistent basis was Sawyer. And now they have erased that person.
I don't like it and I especially don't like the way he simply does what Juliet asks him to do without question. (Let's forget about their entirely unbelievable, cookie-cutter, cardboard romance.) She calls his name, "James," and suddenly he is submissive. During the fight with Jack and the decision about the bomb, I was reminded of a line from an earlier episode. Kate asks Sawyer why he is helping kid!Ben, why he changed his mind. And he talks about how Juliet said that right now Ben's just a kid and they can't just let him die, and then he says "So that's why I'm doing it. I'm doing it for her." (Possibly a paraphrase.) For her. Not because she had a good point, not because she convinced him it was the right thing to do, but just because she asked him to. Frankly, at the time, it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard. I am saddened by this. I don't even know how to respond to the way they've treated this character this season. I will still root for him because he is Sawyer, but I hope that next season they remember who he really is.
Jack:
I haven't a clue what to say here. I'm baffled. I think he is just as lost as we are.
The Jumpsuits:
Can't express how much I want them to go away. I don't care if they are a little tight in the rear. They make everybody look like Gumby, minus the square head.
Jacob v. Not!Locke:
I agree with![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
kools_pad's assessment that Jacob represents good and Not!Locke (and Christian, and Alex, and Yemi, etc.) represents evil and that they're locked in some eternal struggle for control over the island. Okay so maybe that's not exactly what he said but that's the general idea. I got the same kind of vibe from real!Jacob that I get from Richard. This calming, non-imposing, trusting feeling. Maybe it's deceptive, but I'm going with it for now.
Show:
I toldslybrunette, I've stuck with it this long, I might as well keep watching until the bitter end. So I guess what's what I'll be doing.
Eloise & Charles:
How much do I not care about these two and about the fact that Daniel's their kid and that Penny and Daniel are at least half-siblings and might be full-siblings and... who cares? I don't see the point of this at all. Contrivance, I have missed you my old friend! (Except I totally haven't because you're always here.)
ETA! ↑
Kate:
I've never fully understood her character and I still don't. There were times that I really liked her, but the writing has been pretty inconsistent, and I think Evangeline's performances have been rather inconsistent as well. (Sometimes it feels like she's a completely different character, not necessarily only in her actions but in the delivery of those actions.) Despite that, I never really felt the "Kate hate" that everyone else seemed to feel. But I did lose interest in her character off and on. But by the end of this season, of our original cast, Kate (along with Sun, a bit), is really the only character that I can get behind. She's the only one who appears not to be acting out of selfish reasons, and not just because she's going with the flow/someone told her to. She's being selfless. She has so much to lose, her life with Aaron, possibly her freedom, etc. And yet she is doing the right thing. She put Aaron in the arms of his rightful family and has come back to get his mother. It's one of the few things that's made sense to me throughout this entire season.
Sawyer:
Why I grew to love Sawyer: By the beginning of this season, he had changed in a believable, consistent way. I don't feel he was emasculated or made to be someone he was not. I don't believe he became "better" per se, only that he had grown into a person who had a family, into a person who cared about someone other than himself. And it worked because it happened gradually over time and was believable. And then we flash-forward three years and Sawyer has become someone else entirely. I barely recognize his character at all. This is so frustrating to me because I have felt for a very long time that the one character on the show that the writers had done a good job with on a consistent basis was Sawyer. And now they have erased that person.
I don't like it and I especially don't like the way he simply does what Juliet asks him to do without question. (Let's forget about their entirely unbelievable, cookie-cutter, cardboard romance.) She calls his name, "James," and suddenly he is submissive. During the fight with Jack and the decision about the bomb, I was reminded of a line from an earlier episode. Kate asks Sawyer why he is helping kid!Ben, why he changed his mind. And he talks about how Juliet said that right now Ben's just a kid and they can't just let him die, and then he says "So that's why I'm doing it. I'm doing it for her." (Possibly a paraphrase.) For her. Not because she had a good point, not because she convinced him it was the right thing to do, but just because she asked him to. Frankly, at the time, it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard. I am saddened by this. I don't even know how to respond to the way they've treated this character this season. I will still root for him because he is Sawyer, but I hope that next season they remember who he really is.
Jack:
I haven't a clue what to say here. I'm baffled. I think he is just as lost as we are.
The Jumpsuits:
Can't express how much I want them to go away. I don't care if they are a little tight in the rear. They make everybody look like Gumby, minus the square head.
Jacob v. Not!Locke:
I agree with
kools_pad's assessment that Jacob represents good and Not!Locke (and Christian, and Alex, and Yemi, etc.) represents evil and that they're locked in some eternal struggle for control over the island. Okay so maybe that's not exactly what he said but that's the general idea. I got the same kind of vibe from real!Jacob that I get from Richard. This calming, non-imposing, trusting feeling. Maybe it's deceptive, but I'm going with it for now.Show:
I told
slybrunette, I've stuck with it this long, I might as well keep watching until the bitter end. So I guess what's what I'll be doing. Eloise & Charles:
How much do I not care about these two and about the fact that Daniel's their kid and that Penny and Daniel are at least half-siblings and might be full-siblings and... who cares? I don't see the point of this at all. Contrivance, I have missed you my old friend! (Except I totally haven't because you're always here.)
ETA! ↑
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Date: 2009-05-16 07:46 pm (UTC)How creepy is that? I mean, in full circle? Locke was next. Yes, its all contrived and convoluted as to why it had to be the o6 and Locke that had to leave the island. And why. And what? But, the fact that Not!Locke definitely put everything in motion, so that Locke would die. That he would be off island, and not protected immediately by Jacob. So maybe we know why Locke was chosen to leave. Not!locke needed a host that would have influence, both with the survivors, and with Jacob's minions.
And Ben being the apprentice is creepy as all fuck. And SO fitting for the character. He may have rare and complicatedly decent qualities, but at his core, he is a bad person. He's selfish, weak, and manipulative.
I think next season will be all about the 'sides'. Jacob or Not!Locke. And it will be about how both have legitimate points. Not!Locke probably suffered from something truly horrific and thought Jacob could have stopped it. Or maybe Jacob was part of it. So his side is about pain. And Jacob's side will be about servitude and faith. Believing in something greater than yourself.
My theory is my long awaited Evil Sawyer theory will come true next season. He's got a whole new kind of pain now. And hes got 6 people to blame, not just 1. I think Sawyer will side with Not!Locke. At his core, even when his this lame duck goodie character, he still believes in selfishness. Jack will be with Jacob. But im sure Not!locke will fuck with Jack's new faith in LOCKE. Tricking him. Kate, well who cares. Hurley Jacob. etc, etc
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Date: 2009-05-16 09:40 pm (UTC)Not!locke needed a host that would have influence, both with the survivors, and with Jacob's minions. It does make sense that Darkie would choose Locke in that way. (However, I personally wouldn't follow Locke to the grocery store let alone anywhere else, haha.)
I really hope you're wrong about Evil!Sawyer next season. Not only because I hope for something better for him but it will make his character seem even more random than it has this season, but you are right, now he has a reason, especially if after this supposed "reset" he doesn't know Juliet lived. (I'm still pissed about that, lol.)
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Date: 2009-05-16 09:57 pm (UTC)I think he's been orchestrating his select few to come back. And after seeing what happened to Cheng's hand? (Remember in the Swan video, he only had one hand, when he was discussing 'the incident') So they were always already there. Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Juliet, Hurley, Miles, Sayid. I think they are just gonna time jump to the Jacob 'present time'. But who knows what random crazy wack shit they will throw on there.
But erase all this development? Seems retarded. Detaches the audience even further. I don't think Sawyer will be EVIL. Well, maybe a little. But he'll be like he was in season 1. Reset. I like the idea that maybe the characters will be transfered back to normal time, but have new baggage.
I mean. Without getting deep on it. Sawyer was pissed already. Juliet dies, because of him, and because of Jack and his plan. As always, Sawyer will be childish and angry and blame Jack. But in a whole new way. A much darker way. I just think its bad storytelling to go back on everything.