Date: 2010-11-04 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akzseinga.livejournal.com
But English is not my first language, so I probably say it wrong anyhow! ;)

Date: 2010-11-04 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Nah it looks like you did a pretty good job, haha.

Date: 2010-11-04 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] par-avion.livejournal.com
I know it's inconsistent but "a historic" just sounds wrong ... and "an historic" sounds pretentious.

How bout I just never use the word historic ever again?

Date: 2010-11-04 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
momentous, remarkable, note-worthy, notable, highly significant, famous, important, well-known, extraordinary...

Those should get you started.

Date: 2010-11-04 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janie-tangerine.livejournal.com
Lol English = not my first language either so I probably have it wrong. Still, I'm pretty sure that I was taught that each of the listed words started with an h XD

Date: 2010-11-04 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Ah, you would be correct!

Date: 2010-11-04 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haldoor.livejournal.com
Ooops, I missed one... that should be 'an hour of your time'.

And it's weird but I can't do an hippo, even though I do an historic. Oddly odd. Oh God, now I'm wondering why I'd even consider doing a hippo. ;-P
Edited Date: 2010-11-04 05:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-11-04 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Hahaha, sometimes words have more than one meaning. It is best to keep that in mind. Especially when considering hippos. ;)

Date: 2010-11-04 06:06 pm (UTC)
siluria: (LOM_Sun)
From: [personal profile] siluria
I had to tick based on how my local dialect comes out when I say things, so excuse the Yorkshire lass :)

Date: 2010-11-04 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Actually your local dialect, according to what I recalled and what kmousie just sent me, has everything to do with it. Good on you!

Date: 2010-11-05 12:35 am (UTC)
siluria: (Men_Karl_toy dance)
From: [personal profile] siluria
Yay!!!

Date: 2010-11-04 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmousie.livejournal.com
I'm typing up the entry on this from Garner's Modern American Usage. I'll e-mail it to you. :-)

Date: 2010-11-04 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmousie.livejournal.com
Welcome!

Date: 2010-11-04 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angela-weber.livejournal.com
lol. I'm pretty sure I just failed at everything. ;)

Date: 2010-11-04 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Awww. haha. Not true.

Date: 2010-11-04 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozmissage.livejournal.com
This poll made me far more nervous than it should have. ;)

Date: 2010-11-04 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Tests are hard.

Date: 2010-11-04 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knopflergroupie.livejournal.com
I think "a historic" might be wrong, but "an historic" just sounds so...NOT like something I would say, ever.

Date: 2010-11-04 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
"A historic" is, coincidentally, historically correct.
Edited Date: 2010-11-04 10:11 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-11-04 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gigglemonster.livejournal.com
Did I pass? LOL

Date: 2010-11-04 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
You so do not pronounce your H in the word "hour" I can totally vouch for that.

Date: 2010-11-04 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregoria44.livejournal.com
Funnily enough, I know it's supposedly 'correct' English to say 'an' in front of some (all?) Hs (ha, I don't really know at all!) but my ears reject the idea. 'An Hotel' just seems WRONG to me, as does 'An Historical' anything!

Ah, English: fickle to the core.

Date: 2010-11-04 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I think only the silent ones. Knowing is half the battle!

Ah, English: fickle to the core.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Date: 2010-11-04 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmousie.livejournal.com
It actually makes quite a lot of sense...I think [livejournal.com profile] crickets is planning on sharing the entry from Garner's Modern American Usage later on, but the distinction comes from whether the "h" is aspirated (pronounced). So "an hour," but "a hippopotamus" or "a historic moment."

Date: 2010-11-04 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregoria44.livejournal.com
Yars, but I am from Engerland, where people often go all lemon-faced over the apparent need to say 'an' historic moment or 'an' hotel.

Pft. In this instance, life is too darned tootin' short.

Date: 2010-11-04 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmousie.livejournal.com
Yes, indeed. I'm a fan of England, as you can see. :-) I suppose I should have clarified that my source discussed American usage. Out of curiosity, do you aspirate the h- sound in those words?

Date: 2010-11-04 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregoria44.livejournal.com
If there's an H there, I'm sayin' it. To my ear, anything else sounds pretentious with a capital Q.

The way I look at it, if an article can't be bothered to be definite, I'm not going to let it decide how I pronounce stuff.

Date: 2010-11-04 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmousie.livejournal.com
The way I look at it, if an article can't be bothered to be definite, I'm not going to let it decide how I pronounce stuff.

Love it.

If there's an H there, I'm sayin' it.

Eddie would approve!

Date: 2010-11-04 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregoria44.livejournal.com
Ah, Royal approval! My work here is done ;D

Date: 2010-11-04 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmousie.livejournal.com
Royally funny approval, perhaps. I meant Izzard. :-D Is there a royal named Eddie?

Date: 2010-11-04 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregoria44.livejournal.com
I meant Mr. Izzard!!

(Let us not talk of Prince Edward here. One is an hanarchist.)

Date: 2010-11-04 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmousie.livejournal.com
Excellent! One loves him. ♥

"And that's what happens when cousins marry."

"Oh, you're a plumber? What on earth is that?"

Date: 2010-11-04 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colourmayfade.livejournal.com
How did I do?

lol, it's sad because English isn't my first language, but I started using it a lot (thanks to the internet, yay) from a young age. So there are plenty of rules I forget or just didn't learn 'cause by the time they were taught in class, I already had my own little habits and vices of use.

Date: 2010-11-04 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
That makes sense. I'm sure the same thing happens with native English speakers. Their moms and dads and cousins and uncles teach them bad habits that are hard to break!

Date: 2010-11-04 11:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] meresy.livejournal.com
I say hour without the 'h' but it still sounds different from "our", which is more like "are". Heh. And I pronounce the "h" in historic when the word stands alone... but it always gets an "an".

Anyone caught saying the 'h' in herb will be asked to get off my lawn, though.
Edited Date: 2010-11-04 11:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-11-05 12:04 am (UTC)
ext_14817: (Don't Make Me Come Out The Vase!)
From: [identity profile] meresy.livejournal.com
Oh that's it, I'm getting the shotgun.

Date: 2010-11-05 12:05 am (UTC)

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