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I have all of these conflicting feelings about this show. Because they did get a lot right in this episode. But they still got a few things wrong.

→ The scene where Alaric jumps in to save Dr. Fell? GROSS. The whole damsel in distress thing just turns me off. Especially when there's NEXT TO NOTHING ELSE happening between these two characters. At this point it's literally just a cliche, and an offensive one at that. And now we're supposed to think (or at least Damon's supposed to think) Alaric is a killer? I'm not sure I care that much. Except... it's the possibility of a storyline that moves beyond this whole originals dance we've been doing for an entire season now. So it could be worth it. (But then I thought that about Jeremy's ghosts too, and that turned out to be just a side-storyline.)

→ Elena/Matt. Y/Y?

→ Speaking of Elena, she had a good episode. I am still furious with her over the whole Jeremy thing, but I kind of love her when she's with her friends, and when she's crying, and when her heart is broken (because I'm a terrible person), and when she's with Matt. Both ex-boyfriend bridge scenes. My heart. I kind of think it would be good for Elena to make out with a human. She should try it. Matt doesn't have anything better to do, right? (How did my Elena bullet point turn into a second Elena/Matt bullet point?)

→ BONNIE BENNETT YOU ARE MY HERO. Once again the girl says out loud everything that I am thinking. "What are you going to do, compel me?" [Paraphrase?] Ohhh, burn. Keep on doing what you're doing girl. Somebody needed to say it. I mean last week we had Damon being all "Aw, you're such a good sister, Jeremy's lucky he has you to brainwash him when you don't trust him to make his own decisions." And it's like um, no. Thank god Bonnie said it. I kind of love her.

→ I'm mad at Stefan. And the writers, who clearly don't remember who he is. He can go to dark places and still resemble himself. It's called good writing. He's acting so recklessly, which is fine. Characters can be reckless and they can go to dark places, but we as an audience still need to know that they remember who they are. It helped that last week he confessed that he only saved Klaus to, once again, save Damon's skin. But pretty much everything he's done since just contradicts that. I am pleased that he's created this alliance with Bonnie, and maybe that's just because I need Elijah back in my life and he's stuck in a box that can't be opened, but other than that, I'm just disappointed. I think I saw a bit of him on that bridge. When he said he didn't care, I mean he so clearly does. But I am actually not sure how much more of him I can take. If he starts making out with Katherine, I might change my mind. But until that time, there's only so much douche!Stefan a girl can handle.

→ I kind of had to laugh when Damon made a comment about how he's not going to kiss Elena now because it's not the right time or whatever. Because shut up. That never stopped him before. I just keep thinking about 2.01 and how he tried to force himself on her and ugh, even without the whole neck-snapping end of that scene, I will never be able to get over that. Did the bastard ever even apologize for that? This is why I can't get behind his faux redemption. Make it real or I will never be able to believe it. He has never had to face up to the things that he's done. He's simply bypassed all that because something crazy happens and he is conveniently there with his vampire skills and strength and stuff. "Look, just because you're the only one strong enough to open this jar of pickles, doesn't mean I'm going to forgive you for that time you turned one of my besties into a sexbot/open tap for months. Oh wait, it does, because thy name's Elena." (How can I love her and hate her in equal measure? I don't get it.)

→ Speaking of things I don't get: that scene, you know the one, kind of hit me like a ton of bricks. It was just so surprising. And Joseph Morgan really hit it out of the park. What he's doing with Caroline, I am not sure, but I felt he definitely meant the things he said to her. And I am really interested to see where this goes. I am easily swayed by ships, especially when they involve Caroline, so I'm on board already, but more than that I'm just really excited for Caroline to be back at the forefront of the action. She's been so sidelined this year that I think sometimes they forget she exists. I hope this means she'll get to be in the thick of things. And more importantly, I want her to have a scene with Stefan.

→ Yet, I was pretty livid with her when she asked Tyler what he was going to do about his connection to Klaus. How is he supposed to be able to do anything? I just -- this whole thing with Tyler makes no sense to me. I get that he's been sired, but how is he supposed to do anything about it without the help of his friends? *hands* Poor Tyler. That scene with Caroline at the start was heartbreaking and sweet. And then he actually thought he'd somehow defied Klaus only to foolishly learn that he hadn't. Silly, tragic, Tyler Lockwood. I really hope you make it out of this season alive.

→ Bye Jeremy. Nice knowing you. (I feel this really strong need to write lots of Jeremy fic before I forget about him, haha.)

Date: 2012-01-14 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] favoritexrecord.livejournal.com
I really liked the Matt/Elena scenes. Idk if I ship them quite yet, but their scenes were cute.

I'm not sure how I feel about Klaus/Caroline, but like you said it means more Caroline which is good.

I'm going to miss Jeremy =( hopefully he isn't gone for too long.

Date: 2012-01-15 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Truthfully I think I was kind of shipping Matt/Elena when they had that awkward moment with Caroline together.

MORE CAROLINE is always good.

I really hope he comes back and he's a B.A. vampire hunter or something. If they're old family friends and that kind of thing runs in the family, then it's totally plausible.

Date: 2012-01-14 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blighted-star.livejournal.com
Klaus/Caroline was the most interesting part of the episode for me and not particularly in a shipper kind of way. I'm just really interested in what his angle is, if he has one.

Date: 2012-01-15 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Oh I am totally on board with shipping them, at least in terms of fic. I have a feeling it can only end badly on the show.

Date: 2012-01-15 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blighted-star.livejournal.com
If they somehow make it believable that Caroline can love Klaus after he did so much shit to her friends, I can get on board. I am intrigued by them and think Candice/Joseph look good together.

Date: 2012-01-15 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
They definitely look good together.

Date: 2012-01-14 09:31 pm (UTC)
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Damon being all "Aw, you're such a good sister, Jeremy's lucky he has you to brainwash him when you don't trust him to make his own decisions."

ajfdksljgksh i was literally raging at the screen at that moment.

I'm not really on board the Klaus/Caroline ship right now, but I think it could be so interesting to explore, and depending how it's explored, I could totally hop on board. As it is, I definitely would like to see more interaction. Actually, I am really kind of thrilled at the idea of Caroline going darkside??? Idk.

Date: 2012-01-15 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I know, right? I'm like, "In what way does that qualify as being a good sister? SERIOUSLY?"

I'm really interested in how it's explored. Stefan aside, all the stuff with Klaus has been well done (in my opinion) so I don't see why this should be any different.

Date: 2012-01-14 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mfirefly10.livejournal.com
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME!!!!!

I honestly feel like I could've written a good chuck of this post myself :)

I LOVE YOU BONNIE BENNETT! I mean, she's always been my favorite but I love when the show actually remembers WHY she's my favorite. Because she calls people out of their shit, but in the end, is still moved by her emotions. She knows how WRONG it was to do what was done to Jeremy but at the same time, she also wants him to be safe and she knows she's done some sketchy things in the past to protect the people she loves so...she doesn't tell him. (Unless my pet theory is right and she left, not to 'sleep it off' as she said, but to sneak off and tell Jeremy the truth! I doubt it'll happen but I just think it'd be really cool and it would mean Jeremy wasn't really compelled anymore!!!)

I loathe these storylines with dick!Stefan and sired!Tyler. I hate seeing Tyler being stripped of his free will and watching everyone judge him for it. HOW CAN HE DO ANYTHING, YOU GUYS?! In this episode, he stood up to Klaus and it didn't matter! His sire-bond still forced him to bite Caroline anyway so, again, what the hell is he supposed to do? Wait for Klaus to die, sure...but other than that? He's stuck just like everyone else. Ugh, I see so many people talking about how much they loved the Stefan scenes in this episode and I just...didn't. I'm sorry because maybe the Stefan we saw in seasons 1 and 2 was never the real Stefan but he's the one I loved and the one I want back. Or at least someone closer to that version of Stefan than the one we have now. I get why he did everything he did. I get that he wants Elena to hate him but it doesn't matter. I just want non!dick Stefan back.

Damon 'redemption' infuriates me. How can it be a redemption arc when Damon has never a) apologized for any of the horrible things he's done, b) recognized that so many of his actions were BEYOND wrong, and c) been forced to face the consequences of his actions. THIS IS NOT A REDEMPTION ARC! And while I highly doubt this show could ever make me like/care about/moderately tolerate Damon, none of those things are even a possibility until they do his redemption for real.

Date: 2012-01-15 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Woot! I love agreeing. (But disagreeing is totally okay too!)

Bonnie motherfrakking Bennett, seriously? This girl. She is simultaneously the writers greatest weakness (because Bonnie as a real character with a house and like, a family and such, is apparently something they're incapable of) and their greatest strength. (Don't laugh!) Because even when you are totally fed up with their shit, Bonnie goes and says exactly what you're thinking so we know that they know, even if they're kind of disregarding it anyway, haha.

Oh wow I hope you are totally right about Bonnie having told Jeremy. That would be the coolest trick ever.

It's the judgement that gets to me. I know this storyline is NOTHING LIKE IT but I am weirdly reminded of Tara on Buffy when Glory turned her brains into scrambled eggs. Nobody was all "LOOK, YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BRAIN DAMAGE, TARA," they were supportive and protected her and carted her around in her pajamas while she yammered on about clowns eating her and magic keys and such. They TOOK CARE OF HER. And is it too much to ask for Tyler's friends to do the same? I mean, at least try?

(Also, I am pretty sure they said that if Klaus dies, the siring would still have a hold of his hybrids. It's why Stefan couldn't let Klaus be killed at the "dance" because if he was the hybrids were under orders to kill Damon.)

There's this super shallow part of me that enjoys watching Paul Wesley be a badass, but beyond that, I just can't with him. Like, I wanted a moment. And not under compulsion, I wanted a moment where I got to see Stefan really struggle -- and then maybe he like, goes apeshit and lights stuff on fire and then you know HE'S REALLY GONE OVER THE EDGE. But we didn't really have that moment. He gets his humanity back and he doesn't even have a half a second to give two shits. He's already going "fuck this shit I don't care anymore" and then Katherine stepping in to get him to at least care enough to get revenge. I needed that moment. I needed to see him break in order to buy him broken. I DON'T HAVE THAT AND I NEED THAT. GIVE IT TO ME SHOW.

I think that the Stefan we saw was the real deal. Obviously he's got layers and he obviously had his moments, but it is definitely canon that Damon was the troublemaker in the brothers' relationship and that was the entire reason for their estrangement in the first place -- and it's why Lexi disliked him. Damon was also constantly teasing Stefan about his boring humanity and such. I think the Stefan we are seeing now is the lost version of Stefan. If they don't let him to return to at least a poor impression of his s1&s2 self, then I am going to be super pissed. Cause that's just OOC in my opinion.

THIS IS NOT A REDEMPTION ARC!
So much word. I cannot agree enough. They need to work on this a little more.




Edited Date: 2012-01-15 02:30 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-14 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pada-something.livejournal.com
i really, really enjoy reading your reviews on episodes. i agree with most of what you said--i think the only thing i don't agree with is matt/elena, but this is mainly because i don't like matt all that much--and especially how the whole damon/elena/stefan thing has been going lately. damon is just--and damon/elena is just--i can't with that. i find the ship itself offensive. and i agree that stefan's writing could have been better for this episode. though yep, i did appreciate the stefan/elena scene at the bridge. what i did not enjoy whatever was the damon/elena scene in which he's all "yep not going to kiss you rn" but he was still caressing her face and she just leads him on, and i realized that she's always have. he's always touched her in that way, even when she was with stefan and all was rainbows and butterflies, and she's always let him invade her personal space, and you just don't allow that type of thing unless you're interested in the person, or wants to lead them on. and. bonnie. she was just perfect. i wanted to hug her forever because yes.

the klaus/caroline scene surprised me as well, but jfklshglksjfs already shipping it and really looking forward to the next episodes. MISS KATHERINE LOTS THO~

Date: 2012-01-15 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I just think they'd be kind of adorable, and I just like that Matt represents this other her. And he's a person who tried to love her despite the fact that she couldn't love him back anymore after what happened to her parents. They were best friends, which I find the sweetest. And yeah, I totally ship it. But listen, the thing about me is that I SHIP EVERYTHING. It's an affliction, okay?

I feel like there's a stark contrast between what Elena says and what she does in certain respects. Mostly to do with Damon. It's kind of infuriating.

I was glad to see her finally lose her shit over losing Stefan, because despite everyone saying she was holding on to tightly, I didn't feel like she'd really just lost it. I wanted to see it, but I didn't want Stefan to mimic Damon's actions (which he's done at least twice if I recall) and feed her his blood. At least there's no blood ritual coming up or anything. But still. Ugh.

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