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So basically, I've picked my suspect.

I'm convinced that Terry Marek is the one who put Rosie in that water. What I won't speculate on is what went down on the 10th floor, who beat up Rosie, who did or didn't see anything of import. (Though I am convinced that Jamie saw nothing, did nothing, etc. But that's just because I love him.)

Here's what I know, and I'll be the first to admit that some of this could just be totally innocuous, normal, non-incriminating behavior. Unless it isn't!


  1. Terry and Michael Ames were heading off to Las Vegas together the night of Rosie's death.

  2. Terry was going to pick Michael up at the ferry (you know, the one that goes to that indian casino?) but he canceled on her last minute. (Which also means that Terry doesn't have an alibi. Unless she does and I missed it.)

  3. Sally Ames tells Linden and Holder that she and Michael have an open relationship, basically indicating that, while they don't like to broadcast it, she doesn't really care who he sleeps with. Jasper also indicates that his father's infidelity is no secret to anyone.

  4. Contrary to that, Michael Ames tells Terry that the reason he can't be with her is because of Sally. He says, "I have a life with Sally. I have a family."

  5. Terry and Michael were not only going on a romantic trip the night of Rosie's murder, but they were apparently house-hunting together and Michael was planning to leave Sally for her.

  6. Backing up the point above: It appears that Michael was conspiring with Jamie and Nicole Jackson to help sabotage both the mayor's re-election campaign and CDF (his wife's company) in order to start his own company and to get out from under her thumb. If this is true, and if he was originally planning on leaving her, then moving in with his girlfriend seems like a logical next step after the separation.

  7. Michael cuts off communication with Terry immediately following Rosie's murder, even stops paying her rent. What was the catalyst for that? Why would you plan a Vegas getaway with someone one minute, and then leave them high and dry the next if something major hadn't happened? What was that something?

  8. Terry is obsessed with Michael Ames. Hear me out on this one. He cuts off communication with her right after Rosie's murder. Ignores her in public (Rosie's wake). Stops paying her rent. He even meets with her in secret one night/early morning to break off the relationship, but she still tells Linden the next day: "I know what you're thinking. Why he would want someone like me? We have a connection." I might add that she divulged this information completely unprompted by Linden, and she was very... let's say... weird about it. Additionally, even after he's given her the brush off, she always seems really excited to see him and desperate for him to take her back, asking him what she can do to fix things. I believe there is very little that Terry wouldn't do for Michael.

  9. She freaks the hell out when she finds Denny in the trunk. Okay, who wouldn't? But she seemed a tad more traumatized by this than maybe she should have been. Could it have brought back some unwanted memories?

  10. When she finds the photographs of Rosie in Stan's desk, she is first shocked, but after she closes the drawer, she looks a little guilty if you ask me. (But guilty and "suspicious" could read the same way, so who knows!)

  11. As far as I know, Terry is not aware of the fact that Rosie was alive when she went into the water.

  12. Terry is the one solid connection between the Larsens and the political sub-plot. Unless you count Janek's man burying the bones for Ames. Which is a bit of a stretch considering Stan cut ties to Janek seventeen years prior.

  13. Saving this one for last, just because it doesn't really stand out to me: Terry breaks down at Rosie's wake after seeing Ames there, locking herself in her niece's room and putting on some Neko Case to drunkenly cry to. This is not particularly incriminating. Since "being sad that Rosie died" is pretty much the Larsen family's favorite past time.


I don't know who beat and chased Rosie, but I am fairly confident that Michael Ames was involved. I sincerely doubt that Terry went out to the casino looking for Ames, got the wrong idea and killed Rosie out of jealousy. What I would more easily believe is that Terry helped Ames cover up Rosie's murder without realizing that her niece was still alive when she went into the water. The fact that Rosie was trapped alive in that trunk has been made into a big deal and is something that only a few characters are aware of. It has to mean something. If she did have something to do with putting that car into the water, I'm certain it's going to come as a shock to her that she could have saved Rosie after all. (EMOTIONS.)

I think it's possible that Michael Ames and Terry both think he killed Rosie and that she was dead when she went into the water. But if Terry is the one who got rid of the car for him, it may have been her who is ultimately culpable.

I'd maybe be willing to buy that Terry potentially killed Rosie in a jealous rage and that Michael is trying to stay as far away from that murderous psycho as possible, but... I have a hard time believing that.



Okay flist, who is your number one suspect and why? OR HAVE I CONVINCED YOU?

Date: 2012-06-15 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catteo.livejournal.com
Oh MY GOD. You have indeed convinced me. I've always been a bit iffy on why such a big deal was made out of Ames and the non-relationship that his son had with Rosie. This would be a really good reason for that. I feel certain that it's not going to be Jamie that killed Rosie cause it's simply way too easy. The rule with shows like this is that the prime suspect is NEVER the murderer in the last episode. I can't wait but I also never want the season to end. WOE!

Date: 2012-06-15 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Woot! Mission accomplished!

Yeah I have a bad feeling Jamie's not gonna get out of this unscathed though. (MY BABY!)

I don't want it to end but more than that I just want it to be renewed for a third season!

Date: 2012-06-15 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timewaslost.livejournal.com
Interesting. I'm not 100% convinced but you make a couple of interesting points. Mostly though I just do not buy that Ames or Terry hunted Rosie down like that. Also, it doesn't explain things like when Rosie called Alexi and said "I saw him again", because I am already convinced that she was not referring to Ames because of the way she was giggling and ducked when she saw him the first time.

But.

I could see how Terry might be involved, she definitely seems to think her and Michael have this crazy soulmate connection when he doesn't seem to feel the same way. It's almost this crazy stalkery attitude towards him. I have thought before, too, that Terry seemed guilty about Rosie and I had always thought that had to do with the whole prostitution angle but maybe not.


IDK IDK

Date: 2012-06-15 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
This was basically me pondering on Aunt Terry all day. I am sure there are some holes in my theory, but I feel better about it than any other theories I've had, haha.

I am going to have to go back and watch the details about the phone call with Alexi. That could blow everything I've said here out of the water. (Darn it!)

If she didn't actually do it, I would not be shocked at all if she's involved. Especially because of the way she is with/about Michael.

I don't believe for a second that Terry beat or chased Rosie. But I could easily see Michael doing that after he's proven to be violent. Easily.

Date: 2012-06-15 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timidwildone.livejournal.com
I've thought it was Terry since early this season. She's the only one who'd both make sense and be surprising (if those two can coexist).

Date: 2012-06-15 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Agreed. And I think they definitely can coexist. Definitely! What I find great about this theory is that while all of this stuff with Terry has been subtle, when I take into all the facts that we've been presented with, they're very smart and they are crafting a plausible story. And it goes back almost to the very beginning. I think Terry being involved is the most satisfying (from a storytelling point of view) of any theories I can even come up with. ETA: I was also going to say that I don't feel like Terry has ever really been a suspect even in Holder and Linden's eyes. They've questioned her numerous times for information but never suspected her.
Edited Date: 2012-06-15 01:34 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-15 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mfirefly10.livejournal.com
I've suspected it was Terry for a while now. Shortly after her affair with Ames came out but I became more and more convinced when it became apparent that she's the link between Rosie/the Larsens and the political side of things. I imagine it went pretty much as you said: Terry believed Ames 'killed' Rosie and helped him cover it up. I'd like to believe she saw Ames chasing after Rosie and followed them with every intention of saving her niece, only to then believe Ames killed her and decide to help him cover things up because she's already lost one person she loves and she doesn't want to lose Ames, as well. I also think she's one of the few potential suspects who'd actually be a surprise if revealed as the killer. None of the people in that elevator would surprise me, nor would Darren or the Mayor or most of the other suspects. And also, Terry being the killer could maybe be a way to keep the Larsens somehow involved next year? Like maybe they do a split between the new case and Terry's trial and how the Larsens deal with the knowledge that someone they loved killed Rosie.

IDK...This is all just to say I agree with you that it was an Ames-Terry team-up.

Date: 2012-06-15 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I'd like to believe she saw Ames chasing after Rosie and followed them with every intention of saving her niece, only to then believe Ames killed her and decide to help him cover things up because she's already lost one person she loves and she doesn't want to lose Ames, as well.

THIS. Yeah. This is how it should happen. Way to shove all that complicated plot and speculation into one coherent sentence. You're better at it than I!

Date: 2012-06-15 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hamarakissa.livejournal.com
I could totally see it being Terry and I totally agree that Micheal Ames has something to do with it. I just wanna know who did it!

Date: 2012-06-15 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I can't wait to see it all unfold. It looks like there may be flashbacks and I'm really looking forward to those!

Date: 2012-06-15 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozmissage.livejournal.com
AHH, WHY DOES THIS THEORY HAVE TO MAKE SENSE? I don't know if I'll be able to deal with Terry being involved, my heart may not be able to take it. Outside of Linden, Holder, and Jack, she's the character that gives me the most feelings. But the way you laid this out seems totally plausible, especially this point: Terry is the one solid connection between the Larsens and the political sub-plot. There has to be a deeper connection there than just Rosie was in the wrong place at the wrong time, if for no other reason than dramatic effect. After this length of time they're going to want the answer to "Who Killed Rosie?" to really pack an emotional punch, and Jaime, by virtue of being an outsider, doesn't really accomplish that.

Date: 2012-06-15 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I KNOW! But it has to. It has to make sense. I've convinced myself that this is the only way it can happen. The emotional impact alone will be awesome and terrible and totally worth the wait.

Especially with how well it ties into just about everything so far. I would love to have been around when the writers broke down the skeleton of what was going to happen over the first two seasons. Because everything about this show is just so awesome and intricate. I can't even imagine being able to plot even the most basic outline of what was going to happen. Geniuses, I say!

Also, you don't even want to know my theory for Jamie and that gun he saw in Richmond's drawer. *saddest sad face ever**

Date: 2012-06-15 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozmissage.livejournal.com
Oh no, are you thinking suicidal Jaime? This finale is going to leave us all emotionally traumatized isn't it? *clings*

Date: 2012-06-15 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
No no not suicide. I think that Darren may have taken the gun with him to his meeting with Ted Wright, and that there will be a confrontation which could maybe possibly end with Jamie tragically dying in his lover's arms by his lover's own hand! #SoManyTears

In the sneak peek scene, Sarah and Stephen are looking for Darren and Jamie who are both still missing. *bites nais*
Edited Date: 2012-06-15 03:06 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-15 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozmissage.livejournal.com
That's even worse! But in a deliciously tragic kind of way...why is Sunday so very far away?

Date: 2012-06-15 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
So I can get off my ass and have some time to write fic?

Date: 2012-06-15 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Leave me some prompts and maybe something will come of it.

Date: 2012-06-15 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozmissage.livejournal.com
Okay, I'm the worst at prompts, but here goes...and if one of them inspires you for a different character/pairing, by all means go for it:

Holder/Linden- i wanted the past to go away, I wanted to leave it, like another country
Holder/Linden- and he found someone who understands
Rosie- because endings are written before beginnings
Jaime/Richmond- I’m pulling you out of the burning buildings and you say I’ll give you anything. But you never come through.

Date: 2012-06-15 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Well since you tried I am totally writing at least one of these for you!

ETA: Would you be opposed to Rosie's being Alexi/Rosie?
Edited Date: 2012-06-15 04:10 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-15 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ozmissage.livejournal.com
Not at all, I'm fascinated by the dynamic between those two!

Date: 2012-06-16 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
WROTE IT.
http://crickets.livejournal.com/515619.html

Get tissues, btw.

Date: 2012-06-15 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waltzmatildah.livejournal.com
LIKE [livejournal.com profile] catteo, I AM ALSO CONVINCED! BUT KEEP IN MIND, I AM ALSO FICKLE!!! And indecisive!

But you present a compelling argument! And it makes ALL THE SENSE! And just, IS IT SUNDAY MONDAY* YET!?

(*time difference calculation)

Date: 2012-06-16 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Hahah I am keeping that in mind. It's locked in you hear? LOCKED IN.

I might go slightly nutzo if this is not actually what happens, lol.

IT NEEDS TO BE KILLING TIME NOW!

(That sounds far more menacing than I intended.)

Date: 2012-06-16 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twilightthief.livejournal.com
I really like your theory!

I never really STOPPED suspecting Terry but they've thrown us so many possible suspects since then, you know?

I honestly dont know who did it but Im convinced now its NOT Jamie because that would be way too obvious. They want to throw us off so Im sure it's not Jamie.

I can't believe it all ends Sunday! Noooo!
Edited Date: 2012-06-16 04:07 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-16 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I know! I know! It's just not right!

Date: 2012-06-16 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mollivanders.livejournal.com
So I read this, and then had a dream during my seven hour nap that this was the real story. You clearly convinced me.

Also, I really really don't want it to be Jamie :(

Date: 2012-06-16 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Hahahahah, this amuses me!

SEVEN HOUR NAPS, lol.

Me either!

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