what lies in the shadow of the statue?

[krickets]

Random LOST Thoughts:


Kate:
I've never fully understood her character and I still don't. There were times that I really liked her, but the writing has been pretty inconsistent, and I think Evangeline's performances have been rather inconsistent as well. (Sometimes it feels like she's a completely different character, not necessarily only in her actions but in the delivery of those actions.) Despite that, I never really felt the "Kate hate" that everyone else seemed to feel. But I did lose interest in her character off and on. But by the end of this season, of our original cast, Kate (along with Sun, a bit), is really the only character that I can get behind. She's the only one who appears not to be acting out of selfish reasons, and not just because she's going with the flow/someone told her to. She's being selfless. She has so much to lose, her life with Aaron, possibly her freedom, etc. And yet she is doing the right thing. She put Aaron in the arms of his rightful family and has come back to get his mother. It's one of the few things that's made sense to me throughout this entire season.



Sawyer:
Why I grew to love Sawyer: By the beginning of this season, he had changed in a believable, consistent way. I don't feel he was emasculated or made to be someone he was not. I don't believe he became "better" per se, only that he had grown into a person who had a family, into a person who cared about someone other than himself. And it worked because it happened gradually over time and was believable. And then we flash-forward three years and Sawyer has become someone else entirely. I barely recognize his character at all. This is so frustrating to me because I have felt for a very long time that the one character on the show that the writers had done a good job with on a consistent basis was Sawyer. And now they have erased that person.

I don't like it and I especially don't like the way he simply does what Juliet asks him to do without question. (Let's forget about their entirely unbelievable, cookie-cutter, cardboard romance.) She calls his name, "James," and suddenly he is submissive. During the fight with Jack and the decision about the bomb, I was reminded of a line from an earlier episode. Kate asks Sawyer why he is helping kid!Ben, why he changed his mind. And he talks about how Juliet said that right now Ben's just a kid and they can't just let him die, and then he says "So that's why I'm doing it. I'm doing it for her." (Possibly a paraphrase.) For her. Not because she had a good point, not because she convinced him it was the right thing to do, but just because she asked him to. Frankly, at the time, it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard. I am saddened by this. I don't even know how to respond to the way they've treated this character this season. I will still root for him because he is Sawyer, but I hope that next season they remember who he really is.


Jack:
I haven't a clue what to say here. I'm baffled. I think he is just as lost as we are.


The Jumpsuits:
Can't express how much I want them to go away. I don't care if they are a little tight in the rear. They make everybody look like Gumby, minus the square head.


Jacob v. Not!Locke:
I agree with kools_pad's assessment that Jacob represents good and Not!Locke (and Christian, and Alex, and Yemi, etc.) represents evil and that they're locked in some eternal struggle for control over the island. Okay so maybe that's not exactly what he said but that's the general idea. I got the same kind of vibe from real!Jacob that I get from Richard. This calming, non-imposing, trusting feeling. Maybe it's deceptive, but I'm going with it for now.


Show:
I told slybrunette, I've stuck with it this long, I might as well keep watching until the bitter end. So I guess what's what I'll be doing.


Eloise & Charles:
How much do I not care about these two and about the fact that Daniel's their kid and that Penny and Daniel are at least half-siblings and might be full-siblings and... who cares? I don't see the point of this at all. Contrivance, I have missed you my old friend! (Except I totally haven't because you're always here.)


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Comments

[lenina20.livejournal.com]

I always thought Jack was the best written character on Lost and so far - no one had proven me wrong. Until he said he wanted to blow an atomic bomb because he and Kate weren't meant to me. It was almost as stupid as both Sawyer and Juliet deciding to erase the only good parts of their lives (or for Juliet, since she came back) because turned out Sawyer loves Kate. As God loved Jacob.

My only reaction is LOLZ.

I agree on everything you said here - I could go on and on about how everything you say about Sawyer and Kate is THE truth - but everyone knows how I feel about that. I will only disagree in that - for whatever the reason - I ship Ellie/Widmore like crazy.

Also - I used to believe John was perfectly written as well - and then they killed him in that disgusting way, making him a stupid pawn, the biggest failure ever, whose faith on the island was nothing more than the mocking of whatever deities/creatures/gods. Now - poor Terry O'Quin is supposed to play a character he doesn't even know who he is. I think that's the cruelest thing Lost has ever done to a character.

[kools-pad.livejournal.com]

"Now - poor Terry O'Quin is supposed to play a character he doesn't even know who he is. I think that's the cruelest thing Lost has ever done to a character."

WORD.

He's now just the most utterly pathetic character on the show. I mean, he was just used. A tool. A mans life, who had so much suffering and failure, was killed that way? Its more like the island was the WORST thing that ever happened to him. Because it gave him something to believe in, just to beat him down to a slow and torturing death.

I do agree that Jack has been the best written character so far. But Jack's real reason was for Kate?? That was almost as soapish and eye-rolling with disgust as Sawyer and Kate doing it in 30 year old polar bear feces.

[lenina20.livejournal.com]

That was almost as soapish and eye-rolling with disgust as Sawyer and Kate doing it in 30 year old polar bear feces.

Having sex in a cage - no matter how contrived or over the top - does not compare with blowing an atomic bomb. Not really. I mean... one thing is being soapish. Another thing is thinking it is okay to blow up an island, kill hundreds of people, affect whatever the future is with the radiation, etc, etc, etc, because Sawyer and Kate had sex in a cage. It's like taking something that is soapish and then multiply over and over until it becomes reason enough to what? Blow up a H-bomb? Really? At least S/K remained in the area of the "romantic stuff" - it was about them - it wasn't used to create a cliffhanger about everyone on the island being dead, or the story to have actually not happened. Seriously. Does not compare. This time they have gone too far.

Which makes me furious because I love Jack and I don't want to see his character trashed.

[kools-pad.livejournal.com]

Okay, actually I agree..

I guess its because I'm a guy and the stuff in the cage just brought the LULZ to me hardcore. Jack saying something, is easy to forget. But now that i think about it....yeah. I guess i just always kept the belief that he was doing this because his 'destiny' was dropped into his lap while he was patiently waiting for it in Dharmacrapville. I always thought the Kate thing was an afterthought. Like, "I'm doing this because nothing has never felt so right to me. And if I can forget this fickle bitch in the process? Double win."

[lenina20.livejournal.com]

My best guess is they were trying, once again, to parallel Jack/Kate and Sawyer/Juliet in a very not so obvious way. I mean, if one of the reasons for someone was to erase S/J from existence, then another reason from somoneone else should be erasing J/K. But it is so contrieved and stupid!! Sad.

[kools-pad.livejournal.com]

I guess in my perspective, since i don't care who is with who, and i was satisfied with Jack's comeback, i didn't care what he was saying. I was just caught up in the epic music and ridiculous plot. I was satisfied with the heroes journey Jack has been on. Hes sunk, then risen, then crashed, and him stomping through the jungle with a H-bomb on his back and faith in his mind was fucking epic. Did not give a shit who was in love with who. Because after the mini-arc of doom, everyone saw how sloppy their writing is when it comes to romance. Or maybe they were just lowering the standards with jaw-droppingly bad romance so that when this stuff over the H-bomb wouldn't be so outstandingly bad?

I was just more impressed with Juliet. I mean, romantic plot speaking. Sawyer was actually in a romance where he didn't come off as creepy and horny. And i actually thought it was psychologically fitting for Sawyer to fall in love with a woman who was almost a mother figure. She got him in line, loved him unconditionally, and she even looked like his mom. She didn't just look like Sarah. She looked like Sawyers blond mom as well. Sawyers whole character has been based off of losing his mother at a very young age. Clearly his mother loved him deeply too. And Kate never gave that love to Sawyer. Juliet did. Also, Sawyer's horniness reminds me of something one of the writers talked about one time. Where Sawyers plight also comes from a sexual nature. His mother was having an affair, that paints a boy's perception of women. Wham bam thank you ma'am.

I think what made me not mind Sawyer and Juliet, even though it was fucking random as hell, is that it made sense for Sawyer. Or it didn't focus on Kate ALL the fucking time. Sawyer in s3 and s4 was like a god damn broken record. Kate, Kate, emo, Kate, emo. A character as complex as him shouldn't have to be ALL about a character who is not interesting at all.

[lenina20.livejournal.com]

it didn't focus on Kate ALL the fucking time.

Didn't it?

On the other hard, S/J completely fucked up Juliet's character, thrashing her storyline (saving Ben!saving Ben!saving Ben!) so she could become Sawyer's brand new "oh!I've absolutely moved on. Not" girlfriend. And since I cared a lot more about Juleit than Sawyer.... All for what? So both characters decided to erase that relationship because Sawyer loved Kate after all? That's a lot worse, in my opinion, than anything S/K has ever done, story-wise.

Also - seeing Sawyer sniffling flowers was very creepy to me. And I find it funny that you think Kate softened him up and made him a sap of character and yet are okay with Jim LaFleur's, which was a lot, a lot, a lot more sappy that in-love-with-Kate Sawyer. For me, Sawyer in love with Juliet was as bad as Sawyer only with Kate, only he was wearing a floral shirt. But I see why you think it makes sense. For me, it might have made sense. If they had told me a story, instead of asking me to imagine or assume or guess or infer it.

[kools-pad.livejournal.com]

"For me, it might have made sense. If they had told me a story, instead of asking me to imagine or assume or guess or infer it."

That is Lost. That's all it is. That's why i don't take it seriously anymore. Inference is one thing that can make an audience think. It's a great tool. But these guys depend on it. They've depended on it so much that now its just a lazy plot device. And they use it on EVERY plot.

But I'll stop here because now it just gets into opinions. And clearly you feel strongly about this.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Wow, I am late to the party!

I honestly think my Ellie/Widmore related "whatever-I-don't-even-care" attitude is simply because it's too much, all of these lost/missed connections etc. the intrigue it's just... tired. I have no real interest in it because it's just another layer on top of layer on top of layer and eventually you just want someone to pull out the pea and tip the damn thing over already.

I always felt John Locke's character was that of a whiny child inside the body of a grown man, and I never understood his devotion to the island and it just pissed me off. Crazycakes. So I can't objectively say whether I felt it was consistent. Haha.