On-island Kate (and Sawyer): I guess I'm just disturbed that both of them would abandon their friends and the people that (we hope) they care about. But I don't know why these types of things surprise me, considering I have been watching this fucking show for six years. I should not be surprised at all at these types of antics. Jin is the only one who makes sense in this scenario. GO JIN.
To Kate, I don't get why she suddenly just now has an unstoppable urge to find Claire and abandon her friends at the TEMPLE OF DOOM. While I still support the sentiment, the timing seems weird.
To Sawyer, I just can't handle it. Please go away. I maintain that after season four, they basically just erased the person he had become. Last season, he morphed into this person who three years later, I could care less about, who seemed fake, and wasn't at all the character I'd grown to viciously love. And this season so far, he's regressed -- only it's not compelling because of what they did to him in season five.
To pill, or not to pill? Let me count the ways in which I DON'T CARE. So Sayid is going to be overtaken, possessed? by something. That's something I care about -- except for the fact that I don't like the idea of it at all. Is killing him the only way?
Flash-sideways (who coined that?) Claire (and Kate): I'm just going to go on record in saying that the flash-sideways thing is just not all that interesting. I was glad to see Claire but not the contrivance that accompanied her. (And the wig, of course.) Fanfic does it so much better.
NO RICHARD! Show? Have we not talked about this? There should always be Richard.
On-island Claire: I knew what was up as soon as they ran across one of not!Danielle's traps. But then they bring the whole thing up about the sickness. This just pisses me off. Wouldn't it simply be a natural progression for Claire to grow protective of herself (and learn how to do so effectively) if she had been abandoned and alone on that island for three years? Why does she have to be infected to do so? Am I to believe that that's not Claire anymore? Because if so, I am NOT HAPPY.
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Date: 2010-02-10 07:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-10 10:07 pm (UTC)I wish all that you say is right -- about Claire learning to take care of herself on her own terms. I just don't know if I trust this show enough to believe it.
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Date: 2010-02-10 08:16 pm (UTC)Uh, yes. Exactly. Whatever happened to live together, die alone? I guess the bomb erased that, too.
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Date: 2010-02-10 09:59 pm (UTC)And if you're gonna hate Sawyer there's nothing I can say to change that, but his hard, edgy side that we saw in the beginning was born in bitterness and thrives on it. If that's what you want then you might like what you see soon.
The thing about Claire...they didn't abandon her. First she was with Sawyer and Miles, then she was with...whatever Christitan is. (My vote is that Smokey was living in him at the time.) She seemed very happy with her daddy last time we saw her, didn't she?
But yes, *something* has happened to her. Something BAAAAAAAAAAAD, it looks like. She's gone crazy because she lost her baby just like Danielle did. Maybe that's all it it -- that and she's got the Danielle hair, so she must be a lunatic!
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Date: 2010-02-10 10:14 pm (UTC)I don't hate Sawyer -- I hate what the writers have done with him. I could not STAND the Sawyer they wrote for us last season -- and that makes it very difficult to feel at all sorry for him this season or to see this loner-angry-type-regression as something that compels me. I am not compelled. I loved Sawyer and up until s4 I believe his character was the most consistently treated -- he had one of the most believable arcs on the show -- and he doesn't anymore. And that's just sad.
Not looking for her is the same thing as abandoning her. Jin was out every day looking for Rose and Bernard. Who was looking for Claire? As far as we know, no one.
I think painting her as "crazy" would probably make me as upset as telling us that she is no longer who she is. Just cause I don't think Danielle was actually all that crazy -- she was just doing what she had to do. If Claire is Claire and she is just doing what she has to do -- then that is something I can be happy with. But if she's some sort of vessel for something else and is no longer Claire? That I'm not down with.
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Date: 2010-02-10 10:21 pm (UTC)LOL. My thoughts exactly.
I thought the episode was pretty boring. And I'm not all that interested in the flash-sideways either. We need Smokey & Richard & Ben!
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Date: 2010-02-10 10:23 pm (UTC)You can have the others, I'll just take Richard, thanks.
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Date: 2010-02-10 10:55 pm (UTC)I think Sawyer's justified in not caring what happens to Jack, or even Kate or Sayid, because the three of them did kind of come back and ruin his life (putting judgement of that life choice aside right now), but what about Miles and Hurley? Sawyer loves Hurley, in a bromance way (see s3 and the hug in "Namaste). Sawyer has tried to protect Hurley before at every turn, and now he's abandoning him? And Miles, who's been his sidekick for three years? NOT OK.
Jin gets the prize this week for best character. And he always wins the most in character prize. I think Jin may be the one of the only consistent character on this show, and certainly the only one that gets more than 5 seconds of air time.
I saw some promo pics for the next episode, and they speak to me and say "badass Sun and badass Frank Lapidus" which, while not Richard, would be exciting. I hated Sun last season and I seriously need her to regain her badassness. And if Frank is right there with her? I'm not going to complain.
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Date: 2010-02-10 11:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-11 05:24 am (UTC)WORD SO HARD.
The only thing I loved about this episode was it seemed like Jack was finally - finally - coming to terms with the fact that he just DOESN'T KNOW. He doesn't know which way is up, what's right from wrong, and that he doesn't trust himself. But somehow, in the end, he still had it in him to believe his gut instinct and he was right this time. I feel like him finding that his instinct not to give Sayid the pill and not to trust the Pirate King was right is really important at this juncture. He's been making the wrong choices for so long, I don't know, it felt like maybe he's turned a corner.
Claire, I dunno. I'll wait until I find out where they're going with this before I freak. They have very little time though, I feel we need a definitive answer about what's been going on with her.
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Date: 2010-02-11 06:28 am (UTC)Sayid and Claire! Two of my faves actually onscreen. It was a good ep to me just to see them. :-) I just have to stay in the present with this show because they are very Lucy-with-a-football with my faves. I can't hope too much.
And Claire-with-gun kind of fits in with that fan trailer! Whoa.
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Date: 2010-02-11 10:24 am (UTC)i agoree on everything. the pill stuff cracked me up. i don't particularly care for richard but goddddd! what you say of sawyer i want in a t-shirt. except i didn't particularly care before s5, so imagine what the shit has done to my interest. it's so pathetic that all sawyer is now has to do with this woman he barely interacted with, story-wise, because you know, didn't want to be alone. what shit is that?
i get what you say about kate not caring for the people at the temple. but do those who drop the bomb care for the people on the plane? or the 06 for those who left behind? this is a pattern. it sucks, but in my mind it also sucks that people don't get/accet that kate should not be indifferent to a grieving sawyer wandering off on his own. she had a right to be worried. and there comes the time to pick your battles, i guess.
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Date: 2010-02-12 10:16 pm (UTC)Who cut the budget?!
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Date: 2010-02-15 01:06 pm (UTC)