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Feb. 10th, 2010 02:31 pm
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We're lost! We're lost! Help us! We're lost!


On-island Kate (and Sawyer): I guess I'm just disturbed that both of them would abandon their friends and the people that (we hope) they care about. But I don't know why these types of things surprise me, considering I have been watching this fucking show for six years. I should not be surprised at all at these types of antics. Jin is the only one who makes sense in this scenario. GO JIN.

To Kate, I don't get why she suddenly just now has an unstoppable urge to find Claire and abandon her friends at the TEMPLE OF DOOM. While I still support the sentiment, the timing seems weird.

To Sawyer, I just can't handle it. Please go away. I maintain that after season four, they basically just erased the person he had become. Last season, he morphed into this person who three years later, I could care less about, who seemed fake, and wasn't at all the character I'd grown to viciously love. And this season so far, he's regressed -- only it's not compelling because of what they did to him in season five.

To pill, or not to pill? Let me count the ways in which I DON'T CARE. So Sayid is going to be overtaken, possessed? by something. That's something I care about -- except for the fact that I don't like the idea of it at all. Is killing him the only way?

Flash-sideways (who coined that?) Claire (and Kate): I'm just going to go on record in saying that the flash-sideways thing is just not all that interesting. I was glad to see Claire but not the contrivance that accompanied her. (And the wig, of course.) Fanfic does it so much better.

NO RICHARD! Show? Have we not talked about this? There should always be Richard.

On-island Claire: I knew what was up as soon as they ran across one of not!Danielle's traps. But then they bring the whole thing up about the sickness. This just pisses me off. Wouldn't it simply be a natural progression for Claire to grow protective of herself (and learn how to do so effectively) if she had been abandoned and alone on that island for three years? Why does she have to be infected to do so? Am I to believe that that's not Claire anymore? Because if so, I am NOT HAPPY.

Date: 2010-02-10 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akzseinga.livejournal.com
Oh God, I hope it's still Claire. At least, I think it is. I don't trust The Pirate King and his "it happened to your sister" stuff. (Of course, I didn't watch season 5. Only read some reviews of episodes, so I don't now if they explained this sickness thing going on on the island. did they?) I swear, if they go with something like possession or "this is not Claire at all" I will just dump this show. For frak's sake. I CAN DO IT. On the other hand, I will be ok with the possibility that it was natural progresion of her character to take care of herself but somehow somewhere something caused her to go darker and darker. I don't know if this makes sense. What I mean is... I hope that Claire learned to take care of herself on her own terms. And if this sickness/claiming/possessions bullshit is true, I would like it to be connected only to the fact that, for example, she had no problem with killing two people, as we saw in last ep. Like, this sickness happened to her after a year or two, you know, after living some time alone and survivng. But, obviously, the most awesome scenario I can imagine is the one in which nothing supernatural happens. It's only Claire who was left alone on the island. I'm all for crazy!Claire or evil!Claire or badass!Claire. I really hope they won't screw it up. Really really.
Edited Date: 2010-02-10 07:57 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-02-10 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I want to believe it's still Claire, but if I take it at face value, and what he told Jack, then it's not Claire. So for the time being, I'm pissed at even the idea of that.

I wish all that you say is right -- about Claire learning to take care of herself on her own terms. I just don't know if I trust this show enough to believe it.

Date: 2010-02-10 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angela-weber.livejournal.com
I guess I'm just disturbed that both of them would abandon their friends and the people that (we hope) they care about.

Uh, yes. Exactly. Whatever happened to live together, die alone? I guess the bomb erased that, too.

Date: 2010-02-10 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I think the bomb erased a lot of things.

Date: 2010-02-10 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alliecat8.livejournal.com
The Other Other Others seem to be protective of our Losties for some reason. I don't think that Sawyer was thinking clearly enough to reason that out before he left (all he could think about was going "home"), but maybe Kate was, and that's why she decided it was time to go after Claire.

And if you're gonna hate Sawyer there's nothing I can say to change that, but his hard, edgy side that we saw in the beginning was born in bitterness and thrives on it. If that's what you want then you might like what you see soon.

The thing about Claire...they didn't abandon her. First she was with Sawyer and Miles, then she was with...whatever Christitan is. (My vote is that Smokey was living in him at the time.) She seemed very happy with her daddy last time we saw her, didn't she?

But yes, *something* has happened to her. Something BAAAAAAAAAAAD, it looks like. She's gone crazy because she lost her baby just like Danielle did. Maybe that's all it it -- that and she's got the Danielle hair, so she must be a lunatic!

Date: 2010-02-10 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I thought Kate realized they were protecting them too but if that's true, then why would she say she's "escaping" them? If that's the reason she's going after Claire. (So that she, too, can be protected by the ones at the temple.) It's just not how I read it.

I don't hate Sawyer -- I hate what the writers have done with him. I could not STAND the Sawyer they wrote for us last season -- and that makes it very difficult to feel at all sorry for him this season or to see this loner-angry-type-regression as something that compels me. I am not compelled. I loved Sawyer and up until s4 I believe his character was the most consistently treated -- he had one of the most believable arcs on the show -- and he doesn't anymore. And that's just sad.

Not looking for her is the same thing as abandoning her. Jin was out every day looking for Rose and Bernard. Who was looking for Claire? As far as we know, no one.

I think painting her as "crazy" would probably make me as upset as telling us that she is no longer who she is. Just cause I don't think Danielle was actually all that crazy -- she was just doing what she had to do. If Claire is Claire and she is just doing what she has to do -- then that is something I can be happy with. But if she's some sort of vessel for something else and is no longer Claire? That I'm not down with.

Date: 2010-02-10 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sol-se.livejournal.com
To pill, or not to pill? Let me count the ways in which I DON'T CARE.
LOL. My thoughts exactly.

I thought the episode was pretty boring. And I'm not all that interested in the flash-sideways either. We need Smokey & Richard & Ben!

Date: 2010-02-10 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Yeah I don't know what it was but it definitely felt like 85% of the episode was filler.


You can have the others, I'll just take Richard, thanks.

Date: 2010-02-10 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comingintoland.livejournal.com
I'd be okay with it if s6 Claire is like s1 Rousseau. I can see that as believable, that Claire would set the traps for the Others thinking that they had her baby. Or maybe the traps were for the Losties because she thought they had him? Either way, it would fit with the whole "we're going back to s1" thing they've got going on, and would be in character with what we've seen of Claire thus far. And then Claire will find out that Aaron's off-island with her mom and will want to go bak really badly to be with him.

I think Sawyer's justified in not caring what happens to Jack, or even Kate or Sayid, because the three of them did kind of come back and ruin his life (putting judgement of that life choice aside right now), but what about Miles and Hurley? Sawyer loves Hurley, in a bromance way (see s3 and the hug in "Namaste). Sawyer has tried to protect Hurley before at every turn, and now he's abandoning him? And Miles, who's been his sidekick for three years? NOT OK.

Jin gets the prize this week for best character. And he always wins the most in character prize. I think Jin may be the one of the only consistent character on this show, and certainly the only one that gets more than 5 seconds of air time.

I saw some promo pics for the next episode, and they speak to me and say "badass Sun and badass Frank Lapidus" which, while not Richard, would be exciting. I hated Sun last season and I seriously need her to regain her badassness. And if Frank is right there with her? I'm not going to complain.

Date: 2010-02-10 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artemis-90.livejournal.com
"Sickness" - Oh my, do you think crazy Rousseau was actually correct about the rest of the French team? As, for Claire, well she was "with {christian]" who we are assuming is the Smoke Monster. Not good news for her - unless of course, Jacob and the Others are the bad guys.

Date: 2010-02-11 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elise-509.livejournal.com
To Sawyer, I just can't handle it. Please go away. I maintain that after season four, they basically just erased the person he had become. Last season, he morphed into this person who three years later, I could care less about, who seemed fake, and wasn't at all the character I'd grown to viciously love. And this season so far, he's regressed -- only it's not compelling because of what they did to him in season five.

WORD SO HARD.

The only thing I loved about this episode was it seemed like Jack was finally - finally - coming to terms with the fact that he just DOESN'T KNOW. He doesn't know which way is up, what's right from wrong, and that he doesn't trust himself. But somehow, in the end, he still had it in him to believe his gut instinct and he was right this time. I feel like him finding that his instinct not to give Sayid the pill and not to trust the Pirate King was right is really important at this juncture. He's been making the wrong choices for so long, I don't know, it felt like maybe he's turned a corner.

Claire, I dunno. I'll wait until I find out where they're going with this before I freak. They have very little time though, I feel we need a definitive answer about what's been going on with her.

Date: 2010-02-11 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybreak777.livejournal.com
I was just so happy to see Claire. In both realities. Bad wig and all. She was there and had lines! I want so little. And I've learned not to speculate too much with Lost because they can do anything. Like last week I was happy Sayid was alive but then I read reviews and had doubt it was Sayid. But it is Sayid! For now. :-) I'm just going to enjoy Claire for now until I know what she is. I love the idea of her going all Rousseau. That's cool. :-)

Sayid and Claire! Two of my faves actually onscreen. It was a good ep to me just to see them. :-) I just have to stay in the present with this show because they are very Lucy-with-a-football with my faves. I can't hope too much.

And Claire-with-gun kind of fits in with that fan trailer! Whoa.

Date: 2010-02-11 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenina20.livejournal.com
this is probably best review ever.

i agoree on everything. the pill stuff cracked me up. i don't particularly care for richard but goddddd! what you say of sawyer i want in a t-shirt. except i didn't particularly care before s5, so imagine what the shit has done to my interest. it's so pathetic that all sawyer is now has to do with this woman he barely interacted with, story-wise, because you know, didn't want to be alone. what shit is that?

i get what you say about kate not caring for the people at the temple. but do those who drop the bomb care for the people on the plane? or the 06 for those who left behind? this is a pattern. it sucks, but in my mind it also sucks that people don't get/accet that kate should not be indifferent to a grieving sawyer wandering off on his own. she had a right to be worried. and there comes the time to pick your battles, i guess.

Date: 2010-02-12 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gregoria44.livejournal.com
Ulp. I am alarmed by this ep. Fact.

Who cut the budget?!

Date: 2010-02-15 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pumahmistress.livejournal.com
I think I'm one of the few that gave up on Lost a looong time ago. People were just starting to piss me off way too much. I will still read fanfics once in a while though, hehehe :P

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