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Satire? Y/Y?

ETA: This popped up on my flist today. But I think it was written in December? I wonder why all the sudden attention?

Date: 2008-03-25 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
*sigh* Oh for fuck's sake. Look, misogyny is EVERYFUCKINGWHERE. Breaking it down like that doesn't change it; it just annoys the people who choose to look past it and makes you look like a man-hater. I'm sorry, but I couldn't even get through that thing, despite the fact that I was trying to read it objectively (since I have never seen a single thing in Joss-verse, Firefly included).

What the author of that is completely MISSING is that some women choose to use their sexuality to make money and get the things they want. Perhaps Inara(?) chooses this life. I don't know the show or movie or whatever it is and I probably never will, but I have known numerous women who choose this route in life and enjoy it. For [livejournal.com profile] _allecto_ to rip on it simply because the character in question was created by a man? Is insulting, at best.

Just my two cents on the little bit of it I could read without rolling my eyes.

ETA: I read some of the comments at the bottom out of morbid curiosity and I found that the one person who was willing to say that they disagreed with her view was indirectly referred to as "pro-prostitution" and was told that all further pro-prostitution comments would be deleted. Apparently [livejournal.com profile] _allecto_ doesn't realize that if you use a fandom as an example for controversial opinions, sometimes people are going to disagree with you.
Edited Date: 2008-03-25 11:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-25 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
I totally agree. But further than that, someone that can't understand that the captain of ship is called "sir" lacks some kind of basic comprehension skills if you ask me. It isn't indicative of anything except that he's the frakking captain of the ship.

And they obviously don't get what is clearly sarcasm and joking amongst the crew. It's funny when Mal says that about Kaylee because he doesn't mean it. If he meant it, it woudln't be funny.

Date: 2008-03-25 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
But further than that, someone that can't understand that the captain of ship is called "sir" lacks some kind of basic comprehension skills if you ask me

I skimmed and didn't even notice that, but yeah...that's just stupidity on her part; not feminism.

Date: 2008-03-26 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millylicious.livejournal.com
She also takes everything out of context - picking out words outside of entire sentences, casting aside explanations that are given and making her own. It's really fucking ridiculous.

Date: 2008-03-26 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
Right, yeah...I can respect someone for having heavy opinions if they're willing to hear the other side, but this woman clearly is NOT. Therefore, she's just an ass.

Date: 2008-03-25 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callumvixen.livejournal.com
I like your comment. It really bothered me that she considers any woman who is paid for sex to be 'raped'. No matter how much choice she has, how much control over the situation or control of her own body, its still rape. Hmm. I suppose that gay male prostitutes are always raped too?

Sex is designed to be pleasurable. In general, a woman's body is designed to be attractive to a man, and if a woman uses her body to get what she wants, good for her. As long as it is HER choice, yes. But painting everything as rape with one giant brush is wrong to me. Rape is non-con. Simple.

Date: 2008-03-25 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
Thank you.

Rape is non-con. Simple.

And THANK YOU.

I cringe to think what she'd have to say about The Secret Diary of a Call Girl starring Billie Piper, which, by the way, paints a perfect picture of MOST women who choose to profit on their sexuality. Sex = fun; money = win. Sex FOR money = FTW. You know? Just ugh in general and a nasty glare with a heavy roll of the eyes in the chick's direction, y'know?

This isn't the He-Man Woman-Haters' Club; it's FICTION. Who gives a shit? Y'know? lol That's how I see it, anyway.

Date: 2008-03-26 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callumvixen.livejournal.com
I would hate to see what she would say about virtually ANYTHING in popular culture. Like you said, its FICTION. There's smart stuff out there, and dumb stuff. Make your choice.

And it really does bug me that she's taking a powerful word like rape and essentially watering it down.

I would go to her post and comment that I have run a women's center AND been a Dominatrix for years, of my own free will [!!], but she would likely have an aneurysm. ;)

Date: 2008-03-26 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
...I'm offended by your icon, which is demeaning to women.

or, you know, not.

I swear to God, I hate stupid people. Like, a LOT.

Date: 2008-03-26 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callumvixen.livejournal.com
That icon promotes cat rape, because the cat could not consent to being in the picture *g*

Re: stupid people. Let's just hope she doesn't breed. Ever. :)

Date: 2008-03-26 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
I think that icon promotes rape, in general, because CLEARLY the cat is staring up at the woman which, OBVIOUSLY means it's objectifying her. lol

SERIOUSLY! Uh, have you read her profile? Banned comments include basically everything that disagrees with her point of view. I love it.

Date: 2008-03-26 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callumvixen.livejournal.com
I can't tell from here if it's a male cat or not. Hmmm. Would that make a difference? :)

I suppose this is why she posted in her profile and not in a community [the Joss is a rapist community? lol]. She gets to call the shots and stay secure in her own little bubble of crazy. :)

Date: 2008-03-26 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
No, it doesn't matter. That kitten has the intent to RAPE. That's all that matters

And AMEN to the little bubble of crazy lol

Date: 2008-03-26 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callumvixen.livejournal.com
Helloooooooooooooooo Mister Dane Cook, full of yummy goodness *gets distracted by discussion, um, rapes your icon*

[and if she HAD f-locked her post? only a handful of people could read it.... soooooo her crazy bubble is leaking all over meeeeeee!]

Date: 2008-03-26 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
MmmmDaneCook... did you know that Dane lives in RapeTopia? It's true, he said so himself. So...there's your fun-fuckin'-fact for the day lol

[I'm scared of catching the crazy...I must stay away from now on lol]

Date: 2008-03-26 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callumvixen.livejournal.com
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA your icon BAHAHAHAHAHA. I made the mistake of watching Vicious Circle for the very first time while getting tattooed. ALL MY LINES ARE CROOKED NOW. Sigh. Oh Dane... lets all live in RapeTopia.

[shhh I think crazy bubble lady heard us]

Date: 2008-03-26 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
OMG no way, are you serious?! Oh, you poor thing! *hugs* Yes, lets all move to RapeTopia! *grabs your hand and runs off toward the sunset*

[shit... Abort! ABORT!]

Date: 2008-03-26 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callumvixen.livejournal.com
No Im actually joking... my artist knew when I would be laughing and he stopped. We always play movies when hes tattooing me :) *takes the hug and raises you one*

I LOVE SUNSETS!!!!!! eeeee! *grabs your hand*

Date: 2008-03-25 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dazzlebug.livejournal.com
Just think: if the show was written by a woman, it would probably be called "ground-breaking".

Date: 2008-03-25 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistojen.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm sure. This is the world we live in *restrains self from rolling eyes again; reminds self it'll hurt if you continue to do it*

Date: 2008-03-26 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turquoisetumult.livejournal.com
Well, now there's a thought! We'll just give Joss a sex-change.

Jossina? Josie? C'mon, start thinking about girl names! And start piling up that money for his operation ... :)

Date: 2008-03-26 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crickets.livejournal.com
Joss would probably work though! Like Joss Stone! Wait... maybe Joss Stone + Joss Whedon = The Same Person? Hmm...

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