Sometimes, you just wanna duct tape her mouth and throw her in the hold for a month.

[krickets]

Satire? Y/Y?

ETA: This popped up on my flist today. But I think it was written in December? I wonder why all the sudden attention?

Comments

[crickets.livejournal.com]

LMAO Trey... I love you.

[dazzlebug.livejournal.com]

Gah dude, I don't even know. I'd like to think that is IS, but judging by the comments, her replies, and her flat-out refusal to leave any negative responses she gets posted there (ZOMFG they're raping her LJ!)... I think my answer is no. Which makes me very sad indeed.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

and her flat-out refusal to leave any negative responses she gets

You mean she deletes them? Holy crap. This is heading straight for FW I can just tell. LMAO. Joss Whedon is a rapist. That's not going to get even his most lazy fans up in arms, no.

[cylune9.livejournal.com]

er... I only read the first few paragraphs (I had enough) and sadly I don't think it's satire. I think some people have no sense of humour and are overly sensitive.

LOL at what Trey said though. Men. :D

[crickets.livejournal.com]

It's scary dude. You called the Captain sir? What a weak-willed person, you!

[viridian.livejournal.com]

LMAO.

I want to reply to that post with "FEMINISM: YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG," but somehow I think the humor would be lost on her.

[callumvixen.livejournal.com]

WHAT YOU SAID!!!! \o/

[callumvixen.livejournal.com]

Her tone, so angry, really set me off. I can understand her point, I just wish she had written it more clinically and not as emotionally. I can't say I agree with every thing she's said - on a ship you call the Captain 'Sir' because that's part of the structure for maintaining order, even on a non-military ship like Serenity... it's not necessarily a white man vs black woman beatdown.

It is interesting reading the comments. There will be pages of comments, I think. I don't care to get involved because I prefer to be very practical and inquisitive and I am sure I would get my ass handed to me.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Yeah I was thinking of posting a response that basically said, "OMFG are you serious?" But someone already did that and she completely missed the point. Hahaha.

[mistojen.livejournal.com]

*sigh* Oh for fuck's sake. Look, misogyny is EVERYFUCKINGWHERE. Breaking it down like that doesn't change it; it just annoys the people who choose to look past it and makes you look like a man-hater. I'm sorry, but I couldn't even get through that thing, despite the fact that I was trying to read it objectively (since I have never seen a single thing in Joss-verse, Firefly included).

What the author of that is completely MISSING is that some women choose to use their sexuality to make money and get the things they want. Perhaps Inara(?) chooses this life. I don't know the show or movie or whatever it is and I probably never will, but I have known numerous women who choose this route in life and enjoy it. For _allecto_ to rip on it simply because the character in question was created by a man? Is insulting, at best.

Just my two cents on the little bit of it I could read without rolling my eyes.

ETA: I read some of the comments at the bottom out of morbid curiosity and I found that the one person who was willing to say that they disagreed with her view was indirectly referred to as "pro-prostitution" and was told that all further pro-prostitution comments would be deleted. Apparently _allecto_ doesn't realize that if you use a fandom as an example for controversial opinions, sometimes people are going to disagree with you.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

I totally agree. But further than that, someone that can't understand that the captain of ship is called "sir" lacks some kind of basic comprehension skills if you ask me. It isn't indicative of anything except that he's the frakking captain of the ship.

And they obviously don't get what is clearly sarcasm and joking amongst the crew. It's funny when Mal says that about Kaylee because he doesn't mean it. If he meant it, it woudln't be funny.

[gigglemonster.livejournal.com]

lmao
whaaaaaat the frak was that?
wow. i can't even...rapists everywhere, geeez.
My mind boggles at that.
Seriously?

[crickets.livejournal.com]

I have no idea. My big theory is that it actually is Joss. He's playing a little jokey poo on everyone? No...? Hmm, too bad. T'would have been funny.

[kiki-miserychic.livejournal.com]

I've seen this a few times on my flist and I still can't get over it. I feel like I'm going to catch stupidity just from clicking it.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Right? It's just scary! By the way? Your icon promotes rape. Obviously, that dinosaur (a cleverly disguised phallic symbol) is about the violate those innocent female feet. *banninates you*

[meresy.livejournal.com]

*blinks*

Okaaaay?

No show, story, man, or woman is perfect. Fact. But, you know? There's a difference between having some concerns and picking out every tiny detail and then Taking! It! Seriously!

Biggest pile of srs bisnis I ever saw. O_o

*gets popcorn*

[callumvixen.livejournal.com]

More butter, meres! *curls up on couch* :)

[inthekeyofd.livejournal.com]

I know that I love to meta, but sometimes you just want to say, "It's just a SHOW."

[crickets.livejournal.com]

But of course it's not...

Wait... WAIT. I think you're on to something. Hahaha. Sheesh. Some people. *shakes head*

[killmotion.livejournal.com]

Sometimes people can't just enjoy something. What is with the nitpicking, people? I don't get it. I'm not even good at being articulate so I say things that are more simple. And my general summary of things is 'WHEE OMG YAY.'

[crickets.livejournal.com]

And I love that about you! Seriously! *glomp*

But honestly? I'm down with a little analysis, a little criticism. But generally I like my opinions to be based in reality!

I'm wacky that way!

[toestastegood.livejournal.com]

the character, Wash, is a rapist and an abuser,

I... Um. Wow. Was she watching a different show from me?

[millylicious.livejournal.com]

... I didn't make it to that part. WTF? WHERE? WHEN? No, seriously WHEN?

WTH did he rape, plastic dinosaurs??? The only person he's had any form of sexual contact with was Zoe and...WTH qualified as rape?

And if she sees him as that, DAYUM, she should be praising the show for killing the rapist in the movie!

[isis2015.livejournal.com]

Um. What the fuck?

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Pre. Cise. Ly.

[millylicious.livejournal.com]

Further than 'feminism: you're doing it wrong', I just want to say 'thinking: you're doing it wrong'

WTF? That's the most biased piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure to read, and I didn't even make it halfway. Anything's gonna turn out into whatever you want it to be if you pick elements out of context and ignore explanations that are given on the show for them to make your own.

[millylicious.livejournal.com]

Also, there's misogyny, and there's misandry (deep hatred of men) - both are just as bad, and her text stinks of misandry. All men are disgusting abusers and rapers! All men hate women! All men deserve to die!

[x-greyflowers-x.livejournal.com]

Wow.... ya know, I hate when people read between the lines and make something out of nothing, then spout it as fact. As if she knows what Joss' and the other writers intentions were in creating these stories. It seems that she's also losing sight of real people and situations. Just because Joss portrays genuine settings as they would really occur, he's a rapist? WTF?! A completely pro-feminist story would be unbelievable - Joss is all about capturing real human nature.

I also find it interesting that feminism is a sexist thing. It's about the female sex. So when a female character chooses to use her sexuality as power... this person gets all up in arms and says she's being raped. Her feminism is empowering, yet this person wants to demean it simply because she doesn't agree with her actions? Yeah, that's horse shit. Feminist... man hater... I guess the line is really fine sometimes.

Bleah... Wish I were more intelligent and had the time, I'd probably write up a counter-essay. LOL

[crickets.livejournal.com]

She's not even reading between the lines. She's just reading the lines. Hahaha. Joss is notoriously sarcastic, as is his work. You can't take every word his characters say at face value. Which, I can't even believe I just typed that, because seriously? Does a person need to be told that? Apparently she does. But, it's pretty fucking obvious if you ask me.

So when a female character chooses to use her sexuality as power... this person gets all up in arms and says she's being raped. Her feminism is empowering, yet this person wants to demean it simply because she doesn't agree with her actions?

That's so what it comes down to. What about intent? Does any of that matter. What a character wants or chooses, which is often shown to us on screen one way or another, doesn't matter?

She talks about marriage and how the woman cleans up the man's mess, always subservient, but what about mutual emotional support? Can that exist? Just... *speechless*

Counter-essay. I'd try if I thought that the time put into writing it wouldn't be wasted because she's just going to delete what you say. Apparently she has a "comment moderation policy" or some shit.

[oregonblondie.livejournal.com]

HA. God, that would be the greatest satire ever.

It's not so much that it's a fairly biased, polarized, narrow view of a subject, because everyone is entitled to that. It's that she isn't giving anyone else a chance to give thier possibly biased, polarized, narrow view of the opposite side.

And I like that she got literal, non-subjective facts wrong. "This bunch of criminals go around stealing things and generally doing lots of violence." Yep, that right there is Firefly. Or... wait a second.

And that some of the people agreeing with her haven't even seen FF.

See, I'm just bored enough with my break right now that I would consider watching the entire series and writing my own series of essays, that maybe like, explore both sides of the arguement. And yes, then do one for BSG. Just cause. (actually, that might even be more interesting, since i have some honest issues with male and female characters on that show, love it as i do).

[crickets.livejournal.com]

It's not so much that it's a fairly biased, polarized, narrow view of a subject, because everyone is entitled to that. It's that she isn't giving anyone else a chance to give thier possibly biased, polarized, narrow view of the opposite side.

Hee! Right? She's basically said that she'll delete your comment if you disagree with her. She doesn't want discussion, she's not interested in exploring other points of view, she's interested in having people agree with her. YAY! Delusion!

I'd like to hear your thoughts on BSG in a separate meta. I generally can't fault it, but then again I have blinders on.

[cynthia-arrow.livejournal.com]

Geez. I stopped at the notion that a white man can't tell a black woman to shut up without it being necessarily sexist (and presumably racist). I mean, dude, WTF. *sigh*

Oh, fandom.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Oh, fandom indeed. That's where I should have stopped too. I don't remember that specific moment, but I have a feeling he was either trying to hear something, or trying to think. So she just takes everything out of context and it's... crazy. Like, does she realize she's doing it? Does she actually see the show this way? *scratches head* I just... *sigh*

[eponine119.livejournal.com]

That...made me feel like I'd entered an alternate universe.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the twilight zone!

[luminosity]

I know she is serious, but I just have to laugh. Because she's SO naive that it's impossible not to. I'll also laugh when she makes F_W which should be [looks at watch] annnny time now.


**waves**

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Yeah I'm thinking it'll be there pretty quick. It can't not be. Hahaha.

And may I please ask, though I may have before, what the hell is going on in your icon? *squints*

[slybrunette.livejournal.com]

Psycho.

Seriously, mental institution girl. What show is she watching?

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Rapists R' Us?

[jellyfrog.livejournal.com]

Well, I started out thinking it was just stupid and funny (obviously people who have absolutely no sense of humor should steer clear of Firefly!), but I started to get offended when she called Joss Whedon a rapist, based on... nothing. Talk about inflammatory rhetoric.

But then I read further and saw her definition of rape. Ah. Essentially, any sex between a man and a woman is rape. Of course. No woman could actually enjoy having sex with a man, right? Coercion is the only explanation. Uh huh.

Apparently she hates men something fierce and wishes she lived on some kind of Amazon planet. Which is fine. As long as I don't have to live there with her.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

when she called Joss Whedon a rapist, based on... nothing

Yeah that's pretty much the thing that shocked me the most. I mean, seriously, have opinions about a show, but don't call its creator a rapist based on the themes that you choose to see that are held therein.

Ah. Essentially, any sex between a man and a woman is rape. Of course. No woman could actually enjoy having sex with a man, right? Coercion is the only explanation. Uh huh.

It's the only possible explanation.

[cmonkatiekatie.livejournal.com]

wow. Just...wow.

Now wheres my icon of that brazen, rape-seeking Inara?

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Locked in the dungeon where she belongs, obvs.

[turquoisetumult.livejournal.com]

I've commented on 2 LJs about this already, but what's one more going to hurt:

PFFT! *dies of laughter in the corner*

That's just... ridiculous.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

The maria line of defense: Point and Laugh.


I love it.

[mistojen.livejournal.com]

ETA: This popped up on my flist today. But I think it was written in December? I wonder why all the sudden attention?

I checked F_W earlier...and recently there was a post about the most misogynistic movies of this decade so far that had been put up at ohnotheydidnt, so I can only assume someone dredged this up recently because of that?

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Ah, maybe. Probably. It looks like it lay dormant for a few months and now there's a bunch of comments posted today so it's got to be something like that.

[thespiansparkle.livejournal.com]

I...my brain just broke.

I sent this link to a friend of mine and I thought she was going to kill me...I had to do damage control VERY quickly and explain that I didn't believe it, I just needed verification, oh my god please don't come and shoot me.

That's...scary. And a little bit hilarious. Maybe more than a little bit. Oh my.

[crickets.livejournal.com]

Bahaha. That's kind of funny. I'm glad you were able to diffuse that. More clarification next time lol. You'll scare people!


Yes, hilarious and scary. Hilariously scary. Scarily hilarious? I dunno. But frightening, indeed.